My gut is telling me that it was not the EPAS in my case either. Dear rich people, skip the SUVs and big sedans.
Just a guess. What does it look like? GM was first to have electric power steering in the hybrid model, not in their regular pickup trucks.
Compatibility information is not available for this item. I have contacted two other dealers to see if they have dealt with the problem and they say no. Warranty?
Otherwise, it would be what to do about it if the repairs have not resulted in a "fix." Thank you VERY MUCH. Over 4 years $523. Like you, mine is affected by the heat. Now for you Ford lovers GMC and Chevrolet did have it first! So will the additional fuel savings pay to replace batteries more frequently and the $300-400 alternators?
(apples to apples) The result is that it is better, but not totally fixed. I would push for a new EPAS unit and see what happens.
We get it. I was in a parking lot and lost steering and almost hit a parked car. That and paying severance to all the CEO's it rotates through. 2021-22 Ford F-150s Recalled for Driveshaft Issue: Recall Alert, Ram 2019-20 HDs, Chassis Cabs Recalled for Faulty Fuel Pump, Half-Ton Trucks and Weight-Distribution Hitches: Why and When to Use, Recall Alert: 131,000 2021-22 Ram HD, Chassis-Cab Fire Risk, New tilt and telescoping steering is standard on FX and Lariat models, An electronic-locking rear differential is available for multiple models, not just the dedicated FX4 and Raptor off-road trucks. Yaw sensor is loose (internally?) After a 400 mi. I thought that this problem applied to the 2011 model because that was the first year of the electric power steering. Don't expect EPS to proliferate throughout the F-series lineup.
Unfortunately, I am afraid the truck will make a liar out of me when we drive it. "New tilt and telescoping steering is standard on FX and Lariat models".
First, he is going to replace the lower steering linkage.
My new truck has a massive fuse box.
To confirm that this part fits your vehicle, please choose a vehicle from the "My Garage" list OR enter your vehicles details below. All Rights Reserved. 99.9% of people don't use their beds for any kind of work so I don't see what the problem with not having rails guards is. Ford is aware of the problem, we are not alone. I have looked at the 2012 Dodge Ram with the Hemi several times. As you can see from brtruck, they don't know how to repair it. They had to stop the GM and Chevy trucks and put them in 4wd. It is when you are driving straight, especially when you hit small bumps in a row. Now on to more serious things What have you got against the man step? The very first truck I ever owned had a fuse box smaller than a packet of cigarettes. You will find of the aforementioned site that they have replaced parts in the steering, but in some of the follow-up the problem came back. It's nice this system saves gas and also will save lives with a little quicker steering because you will need that with all those run away toyotas around!! Thank you for the posting. The shake rattle and roll video is specially interesting, and the thinking outside and inside the box videoGM doesn't even have or offer the bedside rail guards - that is an outrage! The dealer here has been good to work with, but the Ford regional manager that has been on my case is awful.
Ford fans can't deny the facts no matter how they try to spin it. Sorry to hi-jack this thread, but I urgently need information on Ford electric power steering failure modes. That is exactly what I have, just as I thought. Whereas a hydraulic power steering system uses an engine-driven pump and pressurized hydraulic fluid to help turn a truck's wheels and reduce driver effort, EPS replaces the hydraulic pump and fluid with an electromechanical motor-driven connection to the steering system. As long a I can remember I have need to climb on the wheel to get over the rail access to the bed on every make and model of truck (except compacts). I love mine. Yes Parts are a week out. The truck is fixed and ready for pick up, but the dealer recommends that I wait for a resolution before paying for the full repair. All pictures and text are copyright 2017-2022 PSS Enterprises, Inc. PSS Enterprises is not affiliated with any auto manufacturer. Tundra?)
Lou, my problem with the man step is that instead of fixing the problem with the box height Ford sticks a man step on. The truck has been out of service over 3 weeks.
I am concerned about the safety of it. "The world's best truck keeps getting better.". Here is something interesting.
It is 100% heat related.
The Chevy videos sound like the Palin/Couric interview. Any info you can provide would be great to address with Ford. I can't get anyone in Nashville to work with me, but I have a dealer in Michigan who will listen to me.
It is totally random.
Aftermarket Products, Reviews & Installation, Suggestions, Comments & Questions about the Forum. If you recall the light duty shootout extreme traction test, the F-150 truck without the locker performed better than the Silverado and Sierra with the supposed "automatic" locker. @hobo wine
They like GM, and they don't go out of their way to cry about ford or dodge.
Big deal. You know its the best thing since sliced bread.
On Chevy they don't need a step - they keep it simple.
I understand your concern about the problem not showing up when the regional engineer looks at it. I doubt you'll ever figure it out. I think that it is stupid to have any locker work only in 4x4. All Power Steering Seals belts are produced by the original equipment manufacturer. It seems to occur more with higher temperatures. This is Ford. One person lost his steering driving down the road and crashed into a fence. I could go on and on but see the videos for yourself.
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Now, it only bugs me on occasion. Crash response:Sync has automatic 911 alert with airbag deployment. I own a 2012 F150 with 2,800 miles, and I have had the same "clunk" in my steering on warm days.
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The 2011 Ford F-150 will be the first full-size pickup truck offered with standard electric power steering instead of conventional hydraulic assisted turning. If you don't mind, let me know what kind of truck you get. This is all well and good news but I hate how everything is getting more electric rather than manual.
They have confirmed the issue, but are now waiting for me to meet with the regional engineer next week. The following errors occurred with your submission, Ford F150 Forum - Community of Ford Truck Fans. How does the 5.3 compare to the 5.4? Two days and counting Im willing to pay something, but its a shame that the under-engineered electric motor cannot be replaced independently from the entire rack and pinion system. (article linked above). What all the cool kids will be buying is the 2011 FX4 with EcoBoost, e-locker and leather seats.
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If the EPAS was the problem, then replacing it would have completely solved the problem. However, they do not consider it a safety issue and therefor are not overly concerned. Will keep you posted. Given what I know now, this is what I would do in your situation.
First, do not waste your time with the intermediate shaft. Silverado and GM only have like 3 trim levels. They put a second EPAS unit in last week. You must be logged in to perform that action. When I talk with my dealer, I can show him the youtube video. It only takes a few seconds. I have a great tech that looked/drove the vehicle and has a 2 part approach he is going to try. The best truck just keeps getting better! And if the F150 bed sides were lower like to should be like Chevy Silverdo then you wouldn't be scratching the rails now would you? My wifes 2007 Tahoe LTZ has so much electric sh*t on it that it is only 4 years old and has had the battery already replaced once. They have replaced the EPAS a total of three times. carsteering. @Eagle xyz - I tend to agree with you. Our power steering drive belts are the best on the market. http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/05/driving-a-pickup-with-electric-power-steering.html, The locker has been in the F-150 since 09. If you'd like to get the additional items you've selected to qualify for this offer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byEFNyjzUis, A commentator writes, "Nice review and as far as the noise goes GM is finally sick of hearing how all their vehicles get squeaks and rattles in the dash after a few years so they have put a little helper Monkey behind the dash with an electric impact gun and that is the sound of him re-torquing all the dash fasteners.". I may just get rid of it, if I can.
People were bashing the hybrid on the last GM hybrid post, not the steering. If you Buy It Now, you'll only be purchasing this item. I wish they (rather than switching everything to electronics) would offer the same vehicle with less electronics, or better yet if they made a full purpose budget truck thats only main function was to be able to drive and off road.
They just want to change the EPAS again. Other systems that use an e locker require the truck to already be in 4wd or 4wd low only.
The electric motor that fails is buried inside the rack and pinion steering system, so the fix is a complete replacement for $1,600 ($1,200 in parts).
How Does the 2024 Chevrolet Silverado EV Compare to Other Electric Pickups? I think that he probably won't be too anxious to find the problem. The tech drove the truck after the steering shaft was replaced in the heat of the day and confirmed the problem. What about short people? I have also taken mine to a Ford dealer to find the problem. I find that I prefer not using 4x4 in the winter as it keeps me honest. Ford leads GM bleeds and asks for more government handouts . It is written and done!
For reference, if you look under the hood, this is the piece of the steering shaft that has the blue circular small damper (I think) on it. Lou, The only reason I can see for you to praise the tailgate step so much is because it is the only thing the F150 has over the Chevy and GM trucks. If there are enough complaints, they will force a recall. Maybe full-size but no way is Ford the best in compact/mid-sized Electronic locking diff., that is so 90's e locker not available with the 6.2L with exception of Raptor. I love my truck when it is parked, but when I drive it, it makes me nuts.
Buy a coupe! Power Steering Seals offers the best power steering drive belt for the Ford F-150. I told him that was not the case at all; that it had nothing to do with the feel of epas.
revealed most of the powertrain details surrounding its revamped 2011 F-150 pickup, reportedly can shave fuel consumption by as much as four percent. If you have looked at the thread this week, there was one person who was having problems with the steering on his Escape. It turns out that the wheel was NOT locked, but the wheel felt very heavy. The EPAS will be tight and pop free for 3 to 5 days and then loosen up and start popping again all at once. An e-locker or any locker in 2x4 is manditory in a pickup. It will be a very Merry Christmas for a lot of Ford customers this year. A drop down menu will appear. Pretty good idea actually seeing as limited slip takes longer to engage and once moving is not really needed. That was a complete part change out and reprogram. If they do permit it, it is with a plow prep package which would likely delete the electric power steering. Years: 2011-2014 The "automatic" locker doesn't work automatically. Ford - does not have idiot fan boi's like you. With milder weather at home, I have not been able to re-create this popping. I am confident that there will be a fix for this. One of the best ideas EVAR!! Mr. Dog, - Ford has better disc brakes all around.
Maybe, when it gets hot, some steering components expand.
Grant it, they are different problems than you and I and others are having, but they have major problems with their electric power steering. The crafty folks behind PickupTrucks.com recently dug up the official dealer order guide for the 2011 F-150 range. Comparing Ford rear e locker to what Totota offered in the 80's and 90's is apples to oranges. Please let me know what you find out. You say Ford lies and you can't even use your real name. Dang!! Changed out the EPAS unit. 3 other maker's trucks (GM? You never know when something like this will happen. The locking diff on other models!! The latest Ford half-ton will also receive several other notable improvements.
They did the last two items at the same time. But I wonder if and when the industry will step away from 12v electrical systems and move to something more like 48v. Side access steps - as above.
what year, make and model of truck do you drive? HP - what?
The dealership recommended that I call Ford for assistance. The first answer was no. BTW just because you degenerate it by calling it a man step doesn't mean its worthless. They start to talk about truck logistics and then veer of into nothing but the party line. What is that????? Does it use that small rubber belt drive mechanism? Then came winter and I did not feel it. Big difference. It feels like a loose ball joint would feel. ALTHOUGH, we can agree that obama is a disgrace. A good thing!
Please try again later. No we wouldn't. The F-150 PR videos are pretty BS too but they at least have some substantial info. The service advisor "blew me off" by saying that I was not used to electric power steering, referred to as epas. It is going in more trim levels now. Simply put, the front ends are not rated to handle the task. I stewed for a few hours and called back a little more forcefully, and now Ford has set up a case number for consideration. 2019 PickupTrucks.com. This is just another way that Ford is proving to be way ahead of the game. The Power Steering Seals logo is a registered trademark of PSS Enterprises, Inc. Use of the logo or any content on this site is forbidden without written permission.
It is something that would require more than that.
I have filed a report with NHTSA.gov and they have responded back that they are looking into it.
Sometimes its not about who had what first, sometimes its about who has the better system. It has cooled here in recent days and I am not feeling it as I did. Once again you fail to move me or convince otherwise. They are offering great deals here on the Dodge. | I have had it to a local Ford dealer and they essentially "blew me off." Should they not drive trucks? Until recently, EPS systems were available only in smaller cars and crossovers because the components weren't strong or efficient enough to meet the higher front axle steering loads of pickup trucks. Toyota offered locking front and rear e-lockers starting in 1993 on the 80 Series Land Cruiser. IIRC Fords e locker they are using now disengages over 30mph and re-engages when below 30mph. The reason they are not coming up with an answer is that they are not having to pay out enough warranty claims. We live in Michigan and Tennessee. | The world's best truck keeps getting better. The Eaton from GM is good but requires the wheels to slip for it to lock up. Have you made any headway on your epas problem? No parts and they should be able to do it while you wait. You may order presentation ready copies to distribute to your colleagues, customers, or clients, by visiting https://www.parsintl.com/publication/autoblog/. If you go to F150online.com and type in electric power steering problem, you will find others with the same problem.
That leaves lubing the whole steering system. Need to buy a power steering drive belt for your 2011-2014 Ford F-150? I did not notice it for those warmer months then. Please follow the instructions below to enable JavaScript in your browser.
Choose from one of our quality power steering drive belts. The EAPS system was introduced in 2011 to improve gas mileage in the F150 fleet. @Robz71 - another bobsie boy alias. Do your homework, Fred. Ford - 6.5 box option in crewcab @Bloods No we wouldn't, we would have said just wait till Ford comes out with it and it will be better! Silverado-Sierra / F150, Onstar with built in auto crash response: standard / not available, Luxury Denali: available / not available, automatic rear locker: available / not available, front disc/rear drum brakes: standard / not available, rear suspension: 2 stage multi leaf / leaf spring, little man's step: not available / available, legendary LTZ package: available / not available.
Be sure to check out our low discount pricing and free shipping in the USA! I am going to look for a way out of the truck as it has already taken up way too much of my time. pre-owned I will save about $130.00 a year using this system. Dave, Rails guards! I have taken it in to Ford and gotten no where. It felt like there was movement at the bushing/collar at the firewall.
When GM tested EPS most ford fan boi's said it's BS and they woulnd't buy a truck with EPS, what's up now?
Paul - Currently almost all manufacturers do not recommend mounting a plow on their 1/2 tons. It currently meets lemon law requirements here, but Ford will not voluntarily buy it back. Like I said to the Ford rep I would be better off to have had a major accident as a result of this EAPS failure. However, keep in mind that my truck is not fixed, it is better. I have filed a written complaint with NHTSA.gov. I see several threads out there on this topic, and I wanted to shed more light on yet another failure. Thanks. LMFAO. Where is the sensor located? @robz71 onstar and sinc are totally different things and i find it funny how having a convienent option on a truck, "little boy step", is a bad thing. lol just saying i dont see the logic. I finally found someone to listen in Phoenix. Are you all just jealous because its something else we have that you don't? I will wait and see how you come out. Offering the locking diff on other models of the F-150 is a great idea.
Not to crazy about the Ecoboost V6. It feels like a chatter or popping in the steering wheel. Ford - bigger crewcab with flat rear floor
I have a 2011 F 150 with electric power steering issues. I live in AZ and in the mornings it feels OK, but in the afternoons when it gets hotter, it gets worse. I like the deep Ford bed. I had this part fail on my 2011 Explorer last year (almost to the day). http://special-reports.pickuptrucks.com/2008/11/extreme-tractio.html, "Oh and GM had a automatic locker for over a decade now". or needs to be replaced. I am looking to unload it. Likely not going to get much help here in the Pickups board for those crossovers. Is that weird or what? Select the option to run ads for autoblog.com, by clicking either "turn off for this site", "don't run on pages on this domain", "allow this site" or similar.
Correct. This listing is for part or sub-assembly number given below only. or, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Msd5ltrMd3Y&feature=related. and I am 5' 11'. The truck has been at the dealer for a total of around 10 days (keep in mind it only has 900 miles on it). Advertising -
Ford already revealed most of the powertrain details surrounding its revamped 2011 F-150 pickup, but it didn't let slip it'd be pairing three new engines with an all-new electric power steering system (EPS). Lubed the entire steering shaft/system. Us4e the "Browse by Vehicle" entries to the right to get to the Escape and Edge forums where you may get faster assistance. It just doesnt seem right to fight so hard for fair and equitable treatment. It did not fix the problem.
The only way anything will come of it is that other people have filed a report with the same problem. My bad. I, too, like mine other than this, but this is a ridiculous problem. Although EPS is commonly found in today's passenger cars, it's a relatively new technology in the world of full-size trucks. Tailgate step - the only reason I can see for GM boys to slag it is because it's a Ford only device. News, Reviews, Photos, Videos delivered straight to your in-box. - They have 3 higher levels = King Ranch, Platinum, Harley Edition. Bob, The post said Ford was the first to offer ESP as a STANDARD feature in a full size truck. I know what your problem is you are one of the liberals that voted for Barack Obama. The people I am dealing with here have been great, but do not know what to do. Correct. Fast response to questions and inquiries. The exact text will differ depending on the actual application you have running. Use of their names and models is for reference only. Get with the program, Bob. Ford has like 10.
I'm pretty sure it's called EPAS. Check the article! As you can see from the postings of brtruck, he has tried everything. The rest of us already have this opinion of you and your posts. He said that I was not used to electric power steering.
I was in the middle of a turn, and the wheel locked up. I sometimes think you Chevy owners really don't hate us you envy us With everything that is turning electric, dual batteries and dual alternators will have to be standard soon. In my case, it is better, but not solved.
They have done three repairs so far: 1. changed intermediate steering shaft - did nothing. WOOHOO!! It's key details like these that make me not think much for the present day GM trucks. Shipping: Free I told him that I knew the difference between the ease of the power steering and the problem I had.
Tailgate Box step - great feature. Except they don't actually show anything. Senses if the vehicle line of travel, motion, is in line with the direction set by the stearing.
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