0000001444 00000 n ,qlADM bBkB\hD}7y J1. and let me know what you think. 0000067198 00000 n Short circuit Only 110 volt at the switch. etc. This article describes troubleshooting a submersible well pump that was causing tripped circuit breakers and that pumped water only at a slow, reduced rate and pressure. Correct voltage is present and all connections checked and good. My water pump cycles a lot. It contains some good diagnostic steps to help you out. Please tell me the "unit" brand and model, On 2020-12-19 I've got this thing working. I just installed a new 1 hp submersible pump with a Franklin control box it turns out I have a low flow well one half to one gal. the last one (1) connects the capacitor motor. Pump is about 5 years old without problems prior to this.What could be causing this issue?? 17 0 obj <> endobj 49 0 obj <>/Filter/FlateDecode/ID[<21C7F6EE83F357637D3BE09826B00F45>]/Index[17 62]/Info 16 0 R/Length 136/Prev 173368/Root 18 0 R/Size 79/Type/XRef/W[1 3 1]>>stream by inspectapedia.com.moderator (mod) - electrical tests of submersible well pump before pulling it out of the well. Use a VOM in ohms setting to check resistance across the capacitor. It may run all day or it might trip in 5 mins. I'm same mod, in this case, but a few days older. Also see SINGLE PHASE PUMP SERVICE MANUAL [PDF] (2005) Goulds, ITT, Website: www.goulds.com available from the company or free as a download at InspectApedia for examples of resistance tests of well pump motors and wiring. trailer Am I wrong thinking that the new pump is bad too? My water stoped after a bad rain storm I changed the pressure switch and got new control box. These instructions and diagrams will serve to teach you the basics of float switch control wiring. 2:t-`yP yqC The liquid level can fluctuate up and down, the low-level switch can open and close, and the pump will continue to run smoothly. Adjust or replace the pressure control switch. I went to go on vacation the last couple of days but had issues so I had to come home. We continued using water while power was out but had no water pressure when power came back.I replaced the old pressure switch with a new one that has the little lever to manually switch on the pump to refill the tank when pressure drops too low. I only have three (3) wires at the well head and that continues through out the remainder of my system being the breaker shut off and the pressure switch. I have changed the starter cap. 0000008354 00000 n by inspectapedia.com.moderator (mod). Weve got level control, reasonable pump-motor life, everything we could want, right? Is there a data tag on the pump giving its brand and model? Watch out: if you're not familiar with safe electrical wiring and practices, don't fool with these tests yourself as you could be shocked or killed.Your electrician can do some simple tests, measuring resistance, to get a clue about what's happening.If the pump is a submersible unit, in the well, it may have to be pulled in any case, as the problem is either the wiring or the pump or its control switch. However the relay in the control box continues to click on and immediately off repeatedly with no activation of pump ( as pump switch is open). 0000002879 00000 n Do you have the pump IO manual? And, of course, were always available to help out if you feel the need.
On 2020-01-19 by (mod) - low-voltage problem.
I guess there was a nick in the wire when I buried it and didn't notice it. BLUE or "run"wire connects from the On-Off switch or relay to a capacitor R terminal and also to the motor's R or run terminal. %PDF-1.4 % So the tech went about replacing the tank and all components. 0000027322 00000 n You have not told me if there is one start/run capacitor or separate individual run and start capacitors. 0000026138 00000 n @Don, On 2021-12-12 by Inspectapedia Com Moderator. COPYRIGHT 2020 Automation Products Group, Inc. close (i.e., turn on) a Normally Open circuit, or it can open (turn off) a Normally Closed circuit, Mount or suspend your switch at the desired level, This cyclical action is called hysteresis. That sounds odd indeed, Jarry; I'd expect around 120VAC on each leg of a 240V circuit when tested from leg to ground, and around 240VAC when tested leg-to-leg. Easier than someone else filling in and maybe not going back over everything I've provided to this point. I'm not sure if the system is water logged or not. I could use a different circuit to test using a combined 40 or combined 60 amp breaker instead. In fact, even with the capacitor not in the system, the breaker flips as soon as the circuit is connected (I suspect if I understood the circuit better this would not be a meaningful statement, but I'll say it here anyway because I'm fuzzy on it). The Type FRG is reverse acting: the contacts open on falling pressure. endstream endobj 244 0 obj <>/Metadata 55 0 R/OpenAction 245 0 R/PageLabels 51 0 R/Pages 54 0 R/StructTreeRoot 57 0 R/Type/Catalog/ViewerPreferences<>>> endobj 245 0 obj <> endobj 246 0 obj <>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageC]/Properties<>/Shading<>/XObject<>>>/Rotate 0/StructParents 0/TrimBox[0.0 0.0 396.0 612.0]/Type/Page>> endobj 247 0 obj <> endobj 248 0 obj <> endobj 249 0 obj <> endobj 250 0 obj <> endobj 251 0 obj <> endobj 252 0 obj <>stream A bad impeller can jam the pump, causing it to draw high current. @Joe,
When current started passing through the wire, there was enough missing insulation to trip the breaker - like a ground fault on a 480V system. Damaged wire It would appear this is open. BROWN or "start" wire connects from the S terminal on the capacitor to the S terminal on the motor, BLACK or common connects from the on-off switch, often through an overload switch and on to the pump motor's C or common terminal, G - Ground from electrical system & ground to well pump circuit, Line 1 - L1 - power in from pressure control switch, possibly through an overload or pump protection switch, Line 2 - L2 - power in from pressure control switch, also possibly through an overload or pump protection switch. check supply voltage right at the electrical panel. I have new 3wire 1/2 hp pump new pressure tank new pressure switch new wiring to well head . When I first looked at it, one of the two 120 volt circuits had its breaker tripped, the other didn't. About Us Other, Causes of burning of a cable of a submissible pump, On 2021-09-07 Or the old control box? It took about 5 minutes to fill the 120 gallon tank. Knowing the context is diagnostic: is this a new indication on equipment previously installed and working properly or has the indicator always been on since installation? 0000066056 00000 n
Some of the well pump troubleshooting suggestions in this list can be found at the Betta-Flo Jet Pump Installation Manual from the National Pump Co. At the regulator, I see 120 volts to ground on all the leads with both breakers connected. My pump is probably 150' from the holding tank. I replaced the switch and I had a service tech come out and found one leg of the well pump wiring at 15 amps and the other at 3 amps changed controller and switch with no change. It doesn't have a ground wire ? 0000075524 00000 n
Yes I agree clamp-on would be best and until this point have not had need for that specialty meter, but should get one. We need to wire both float switches back to our control circuitry, plus we have to add the contacts and seal-in relay A. Are we on the same page here? If we don't have a short in the circuit then unfortunately that makes us suspect a failing pump motor. Where can I find a float switch wiring diagram? Keep in mind that when the motor starts to spin conditions in the windings can change and a break can open up or short circuit can close. This is a big world water pump 220 volts 2 wire, With the closed circuit on the pressure switch the voltage reads 250 volts on one leg and 0 voltage on the other leg, I checked the voltage on the line and load on the pressure switch one side is 250 and the other side is 0. How can I fix it please? by (mod) Is it worth trying giving it a higher amp circuit? And moderators may discuss and compare notes in forming an answer. Do not just insulate and turn power back on. In all reality, most of the pumps and motors you would control with a float switch are probably large enough to require these integrated controls. 0000015825 00000 n
Two wires, and youre done. Thank you. @inspectapedia.com.moderator, Sorry for slow response; I'm working many projects on large acreage. 9013 Pumptrol COMMERCIAL PRESSURE SWITCHES Type F and 9013 Commercial Pressure Switches Type G, Catalog, WATER PUMP PRESSURE CONTROL SWITCH CLASS 9013, Type F, G, Manual, WATER PRESSURE CONTROL SWITCH ADJUSTMENTS, ARTICLE INDEX to WATER SUPPLY, PUMPS TANKS WELLS, HOME INSPECTION EDUCATION COURSES (Canada), HOME INSPECTION EDUCATION: HOME STUDY COURSES. How to install & wire a pump control box. 0000015668 00000 n
in the last few days, it has tripped the breakers 5 times. No constriction ( unless caused by low voltage or voltage drop somewhere slowing the pump momentarily and intermittently) that I can not find when looked for. No affect at all , except if I left it in reset position, then clicking intervals slowed way down. Have you tried disconnecting from power (first turn power off) and then checking the resistance between the leads to the pump? Get instant insight into any electronic component. Sorry I don't see an orange wire, but I do see two red and a yellow and a black. [Click to enlarge any image]. An electrician would1. How do I fix this please? (2,000,000 Ohms). Watch out: I cannot advise you to connect your pump to this control before we know more, as a short circuit could kill you. @Anonymous, 0000023556 00000 n
The switch will not turn itself on and must be manually turned on. https://inspectapedia.com/electric/Amps_Measurement.php It is low use so I have only had to do this once a day, as I have another well system for all daily needs. Page top illustration courtesy of Carson Dunlop Associates. One more bit of info though: this well problem is from well pump originally installed by original owner, who is long gone and I have now become care taker of it. In doing-so, also check the well piping and wiring as they rise out of the well casing - for signs of abrasion or wear that might tell us that the pump was torquing and twisting the pipes and wires. Thank you. In a typical 240 volt electrical circuit you will find half that amount when measuring between each of the individual wires and neutral or ground. This happens even if Im holding the pressure control fill lever. (See picture. 
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I have a submersible well pump that fills a 5000 gal. If the well is toast, I think the shortest path to getting water to this house is connect to municipal water rather than repair the well, but if there's something I can do with just the electrical end of this to get it going, that'd be ideal. Bobby That certainly sounds like a low-voltage problem. I'm not sure what the water valve switch is.
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If you can't find the break in the wiring it'd be safest to leave power off until you have an electrician on site. Not two additional wires, just two wires. We also provide an ARTICLE INDEX for this topic, or you can try the page top or bottom SEARCH BOX as a quick way to find information you need.
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