Is there a CargoBuckle in your future? Deere now offers a 3rd function kit for the 1-series that we recommend if you are a new purchaser. Now how are we suppose to know that you got a grapple sent to you if you havent discussed it? I clearly updated the top of this article stating that that Artillian has recently provided us a grapple. If youre an existing 1-series owner, we strongly recommend a 3rd party option from Artilian. No one is logging on their properties and its the BRUSH which can be collected in huge bundles that becomes the reason for the need of a grapple. The single clamping model weighs just 241 lbs. I also looked at the Land Pride grapple and if I was asked to give my opinion, Id use the same words as Tim. I initially made the statement of recieving one for a laugh but with a serious possibility to consider through appropriate work and proper channels. We are actually in between Glacier National Park and the Flathead National Forest. Both of these grapples will be well suited for your subcompact, or small compact utility tractor! Loosing shingles and a tornado destroyed a few buildings in my local address. I had no idea there was a revision on that grapple. However, it is not a suitable solution for the 1-series. Oh my! 0000210733 00000 n Would love your current thoughts on grapples. Let it run out then modify the machine as you wish. With the longer lower tines, I think I can slip them under the root and use the weight of the tractor to break them loose. In this article, well discuss some of the special needs a sub-compact tractor like Johnny has when considering a grapple, and evaluate a few different grapple options. Although shipped to me is just over $1500. As I mentioned, I am planning on getting the grapple sections to fit on the frame some time next spring. In addition to the 50 Deere specific grapple, CT offers a 55 version in both JDQA and SSQA versions. The way the Deere loader is made, this is risky. So, we are definitely on the same page there. I know its a little off subject by I just bought a diverter valve kit from http://www.summithydraulics.com and it has a really nice handle replacement with a built in trigger for the 3rd valve and it was half the cost of every other kits I have found. Spend limited amount of time at trade shows except for midwest. tj@E I have spoken with this vendor. Hi, Tim. I like that this unit uses the John Deere Quick Attach system, so you can easily switch from your bucket to this and back to the bucket with a minimum of fuss. Or maybe Ill contact the company and let them know Ill stand at a local trade show here in my neck of the woods to promote the product if they send one with literature and billboards. I live in an area that is dominated by a JD dealer with 17 locations and one head salesman claims to see no need for them. 0000614878 00000 n Weight would not be an issue. xref Can you check them out and let me know your thoughts?http://innovativetractorattachments.com, I should have my 1025r TLB delivered in a couple of weeks. I think you can buy Titan forks and grapple bucket cheaper than the Artillan set up and not have to remove the forks from the frame to slide on the grapple sections. Bluetooth Hearing Protection for Your Compact Tractor! Weight is a huge factor when youre mounting it on a sub compact tractor and the land pride is one of the lightest grapples out there which in my opinion would go perfectly with his tractor. Wow. I had a problem with the seals on the backhoe stabilizer cylinders. Additionally, each of these grapples is made in the USA! if you would go and watch many of his videos, youll see that he has addressed all the things you speak of and more. When you were on the Everything Attachments website, did you check out the third function hydraulic kits they sell. You are using an out of date browser. Thanks for watching, Ken. hose saver spring kit allows rerouting of hydraulic hoses to keep them safe. Oz. 0000215312 00000 n But Im not sure I like the idea that you lose the tilt feature. Do you have a different recommendation for 2 series vs 1 series, now that youve been working with Johnny2 for a while? 0000605597 00000 n Maybe you should find another dealer? I saw that Summit has a kit, but I'm not knowledgeable enough to know if it'll have the same limitation. Jeff King will even do custom modifications for you if you want. That is likely what leads me to the grapple. Obviously he hasnt tried the grapple out since he doesnt have the third function installed yet. On the negative side, the componetized approach adds a bit of weight to the most natural configuration (2 rakes plus one clamp) with this solution coming in at 243 lbs, with the optimal configuration (2 clamps, one rake) weighing in at 293lb. Under-built. Keep up the good work. The 50 grapple is priced at $1500 + shipping, and the 55 is priced at $1625 + shipping. I have to disagree with Tims comment that it would not be good at digging out roots. And the open cylinders are better protected and have a better looking hinge point. Maybe a bit less, maybe a bit more. I am really almost at ground zero because my forks are the removable screw-ons. Hydraulic Thumb for Deere 260B, 270B, and 370B backhoes, Online parts catalogs Incredible Support Resource, The 19-year-olds Opinion on the Honda Ridgeline, 3-Point Quick Hitch Options for Compact Tractors. Under-built to be stupid. Maybe someday! Nick asked the question and Tim gave his honest reply. Certainly if you consider your lack of understanding towards my previous comment with your statement of believing that there is no way that they would send me a BC 4200 if they hadnt sent one to you. What more could one ask for. Make sense? Another challenge we must deal with are the hydraulics needed for the grapple. This reduction in usable lift capacity is not acceptable to me, so this grapple will not be making an appearance on Johnny. 3046R with essentially everything! Also the excellent support Artillian gives you if you should need it is second to none. Commercial financing provided or arranged by Express Tech-Financing, LLC pursuant to California Finance Lender License #60DBO54873. Im considering getting a grapple on my 1025r for our yard full of trees and our hunting land up here in northern Minnesota. 3rd function valve kit allows for use of a grapple or 4 in 1 bucket Kit is complete with 1/2" ag couplers. The plates are 3/8 thick AR400 steel on this grapple, making it by far the strongest and toughest built grapple in this roundup. 0000609676 00000 n They specialize in grapples, snow plows and pushers, etc. Check out EA's wicked grapples, Precision manufacturing's mini322's or Artillian's modular grapple setup. Using the link above, you can look through our upload history, as well as look at specific playlists of videos we have created (specific projects, themes, etc). The 1-series Deere (and other sub-compact tractors) will lift approximately 600 lbs to full height with the standard bucket. Start by dropping the frame as low as you can and remove the driveshaft. Anyway, none of that is importantwhen compared to this storm. Also, remembering your episode where you were moving the sidewalk, the longer tines should allow me to get further under the slab and raise it in a more horizontal position. I purchased the Harbor freight hydraulic cart and slide it under the tractor to drop the frame onto. The Precision grapple has either 1 or 2 independent clamps, the CTA grapple has a 1/2 width single clamp, and the Artillian has 1,2, or 3 independent clamps. I only needed my wifes help twice! 0000212341 00000 n I have to say, I am a big fan of Ted, who does the videos of products at Everything Attachments. Plus Ive been looking at the root grapple from http://www.roorgrapple.com. Your current browser cannot run our content, please make sure your browser is fully updated or try one of the browsers below. The single clamping model, 322SGLSS, is priced at $2155 after the TTWT10 discount. It is not expecting force to be directly applied to it. 0000607507 00000 n At nearly $700 to set up hydraulics to operate a grapple the total investment is close to or even higher than $2000. I did however, apply Tims excellent evaluation method in making my decision. $1,163 retail including shipping. Do you have any experience with the Landpride? (Perhaps I should add it to the roundup so that these points would be discussed.). The others seemed too complicated, pricey and I became too lost in the weight issue. I noticed you have a pallet rack in your building for your attachments. Good point on the bar to keep the lower arms from moving independently. I also got a Heavy Hitch Toothbar and I think the combination will be great. Ideally a brush crusher across the south would be a great addition to a tractor. I just got a response from them (Westendorf). I find this terminology hard to compare with the more formal ATSM name (AR400) specified by Precision Manufacturing and Artillian.
I also purchased a box blade that can front mount on my ssqa, or 3pt mount. Easiest to install. We have been to Glacier and Waterton. If so, Im sorry. /T 1515428 The implement is great for my needs. This section weighs 40 lbs, and is much more cost effective than the clamp section. I have "the thumb" grapple. http://www.everythingattachments.com/Tractor-Root-Grapples-s/10568.htm. Hi, Tim. Not sure why you would seek my opinion AFTER you purchased. Check it out and let me know what you find out. 0000606277 00000 n /N 8 Takes a good deal of work to drag the amount I end up cutting. The Mini 322 Grapple Rake is constructed of 1/4 AR400 steel. Lets round that down to 100 for calculation purposes. In the end you had nothing to say about most of the comment content but to focus specifically on the possibilty of me not recieving a grapple if they havent sent one to you yet. Under-built did you take into consideration the type and quality of high tensile metal that is used in the land pride grapple? Now, on the choice of BC 4200 vs. Grapple, I was initially very excited when I saw the BC-4200 for the reasons you mention. You have the double clamp grapple w/3 rakes? The jaws of the Mini 322 opens to a height of 36. I decided to go with the Compact Tractor Attachments (www.ctattachments.com) and couldnt be happier. Im sorry, I dont believe that to be the case. 4. 0000213807 00000 n Is this the Canadian Glacier National Park? Even though your bucket may not be quick attach, there may be an upgrade available from the dealer. No doubt grapple would be faster, but $2000+ faster? These valves have power beyond Capability (Power Beyond Adapter Sleeve is required SKU: P40G-PB), as well as the ability to operate as a closed-center valve (Closed-Center Plug Required SKU: P40G-CC). It doesnt take too big of a log, concrete, etc to be 400lbs. I think JD is just trying to get you to buy JD parts only for extravagant outrageous prices. I have watched most of your videos but didnt know it was something to separately subscribe to. << The price for the double clamping model, 322DBLSS, is $2245 after applying the TTWT10 coupon code for 10% off. https://www.tractorbynet.com/forumsquestion-7c362536-da2a-43b4-ac89-b0918f68c25e. Assets aged 10-15 years or more may require increased finance charges. 0000003722 00000 n However, the Titan is too much compromise in lift capacity for me. You said biggest deterrentwell, the biggest deterrent to me is that I can accomplish almost everything with the forks and bucket that would be accomplished with the grapple. > I wasnt aware of your youtube channel. After only a few hours, Im thrilled with this decision. 0000004151 00000 n Consumer financing arranged by Express Tech-Financing, LLC pursuant to California Finance Lender License #60DBO54873 and state licenses listed at this. If you guys ever get out this way, please let me know and we will give you the cooks tour. 0000623379 00000 n I have the same WR Long diverter that Cglaser has. All you need to add are the forks themselves (~$220 when purchased with the fork frame). Tim, a company I have been in contact with for a 4-in-1 bucket for my Kubota is W.R. Long. Tim. /Type /Catalog Its well built. Hydraulic Monoblock Valves are a style of Hydraulic Control valve. Dont ever expect to use for excessive loads. My problem with John Deere warranties is how they decide what is or isnt covered. John will be put away for the storm in the brush tomorrow w/ attachments where there isnt larger trees. Your tractor will need some sort of quick attach bucket to use a grapple effectively.
I use it for mowing, light loader work, snow removal and, hopefully soon, grapple work. e6)EIgf"{lf||U7$8GzR'F5'_)F]TH_rGetd|lF hV23dp",5g;p~Y7U?K /Linearized 1 When not needed, these components can be stored individually, taking up much less overall storage space than the other options weve discussed. I considered the Artilian because of its versatility but my dealer said they could not get one. We have documented/proof of our effectiveness as marketers. Each of their grapple components mounts to the popular Artillian fork frame.The picture on the right shows the main grapple component, referred to as the Clamp Section.
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Im seeing here for me that the Brush crusher 4200 fits the bill for me for the ease of use or versatility and definitely price. There are holes in the lower tines which could contain close outs for smaller filtering for rocks, etc. I recently purchased a LandPride Grapple for my Massey Ferguson GC1723e. There appears to be an optional bar to link the two FEL arms. 0000215748 00000 n
2022 TractorByNet.com | TractorByNet is a registered trademark of IMC Digital Universe, Inc. Other trademarks on this page are the property of their respective owners. Great story! So, from here, youve probably only been exposed to 25-50 of our videos. Each of these are very good options. %PDF-1.7
Incidentally, I purchased my grapple from Compact Tractor Attachments. Its lots to consider but weight isnt my biggest concern. Even with our large viewership, he was not interested. It only itemizes the 2 grapples & rake. See All Less than 40 HP Tractors From Seller. They are a great company to deal with and, initially, I am impressed with the quality of the frame and forks. Having said that, I do feel like we are highly qualified to receive demo product. yes, looks like it. The Precision Manufacturing Mini 322 Grapple Rake is well suited to the compact and sub-compact tractor market. I put the cab on myself, it wasnt too difficult for an average mechanic type. When I spoke of receiving a Brush crusher for myself I meant for the use to stand at fairs and trade shows to promote sales. Financing approval may require pledge of collateral as security. They also have 3rd function kits for nearly every tractor or can piece one together. Customers can choose one, two or three clamp sections for their grapple, depending upon their needs and budget. 0000002262 00000 n
In this photo, it is mounted to an SSQA compatible fork frame. Still trying to find out if it has a JDQA attachment though. Simple as that. You did not happen to mention their grapples in your initial rundown, which I realize was not meant to be a comprehensive list. %
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I did well with the bucket moving lumber and smaller stuff. Hope you find your needed answer. There is a thread about it on GreenTractorTalkand the sales guy I talked with posted there. Thanks for all your Videos. I just didnt like the idea of the diverter, though I know they work well. The grapple can be detached and only a support bar stays on the bucket and wont get in the way for other bucket uses. 0000215706 00000 n
With your adoption of additional grapples since 2017, are you going to update this blog? Our park is Glacier National Park and the Canadians which adjoins ours is Waterton Park. Not JD QA. Quite a difference. I have the large JD ballast box and it gets annoying taking up too much room on the rear when manuvering. I would like to buy a 2018 John Deere 1025 Flb. Applicant credit profile including FICO is used for credit review. Equal opportunity lender. /E 630772
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This is the biggest issue with grapples and sub-compact tractors. The Artillian solution is the strongest built grapple of the group with the 3/8 AR400 steel. Too much family partying time! At $1492 + $50 for JD mount, It comes in at less than the Artillian (I already have their forks) and its a dedicated attachment. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Hydraulic Monoblock Solenoid Directional Control Valve, 6 Spool, 13 GPM, 12V DC, Monoblock Directional Control Valve, 3 Spool, Joystick Handle, 11 GPM, Hydraforce SV10-42-0-N-00 Solenoid Operated Cartridge Selector Valve, Hydraulic Multiplier, Selector Diverter Valve Kit w/ Switch, Couplers, #10 SAE, Hydraulic Third Function Valve Kit w/ Joystick Handle for Tractor/Loader, 21 GPM, 1 Switch Box with one momentary rocker switch and 36 Harness, Operate hydraulic cylinders (Double-Acting or Single-Acting): Grapples (Tilt/Raise Cylinders), Box Blade (Height Adjustment), Operate hydraulic motors (D Spool Required): Brush Cutter, Snow Blower, Operate Cylinders for Snow Plows (A Spools), All spools are double acting with spring return to neutral position, A spool is designed to control double acting cylinders, A and B ports are closed to Tank in neutral position, All spools are double acting with spring return to neutral position, D spool is designed for non-load holding applications such as motors and horizontal cylinders, A and B ports are open to Tank in neutral position, Precision ground and hard chrome-plated spools assure a long life, High-tensile strength cast iron monoblock construction, SAE O-Ring ports ensure solid seal and prevent blockages, Used for open center systems (Pump to Tank Flow), Adjustable Relief Valve Range: 1500 to 3625 PSI, Max Operating Pressure: P = 3625 PSI, T = 725 PSI, A & B = 4350 PSI, A & B Work Ports: #8 SAE O-Ring (3/4-16) Thread, Inlet Port: #10 SAE O-Ring (7/8-14) Thread, Outlet Port: #10 SAE O-Ring (7/8-14) Thread, N Port: #8 (1/2 14) G Thread (British Pipe Thread Parallel), Switch Box with one momentary rocker switch that springs automatically to the neutral position, Weatherproof enclosure and DIN connectors, 1 10 Valve/extension Harness with 2 DIN connectors and 1 female Deutsche connector. I have the John Deere third function valve on my tractor, so plumbing was no problem, though I did have to relocate the mount on the third function connections to avoid possibly putting the couplings in a bind. Let me know if you still cant find it, I will send link. One quick questionI would like to remove the mowers mechanical lift frame for the winter. I have learned a lot from them. If starting from scratch, this grapple is by far the most expensive of those discussed in this article. As I said, a minor problem that was easily fixed. Plus one choice that I would not recommend. /OpenAction 286 0 R
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This is the logic behind my comment saying that since we had not received one, I didnt think you probably would. Another thing is I had more to say in my most recent comment about the grapple issue in the south which would make them readily available at dealers but the only thing you commented on was your confusion to my comment and if you rubbed me the wrong way. I believed I was keeping an eye on new information that was coming up on your website. Artillian site lists the grapple-rake-grapple for $3k. Its 50 and weighs 274 pounds. Be sure to check your tractor for the loader bucket attachment mechanism, and follow-up with your dealer with questions. 
The other grapples in the roundup are around 200 lbs. Let me clarify my digging out roots assessment. I had no idea that anyone lived inside Glacier National Park. Works well. No weight to the huge bundles and certainly with the right sales push a JDQA grapple without the extra hydraulics would be a good choice for many at the right price. 287 54
2016 John Deere 1025R - - - 50 hr Service cost comparison between dealer and DIY ?? I dont trust the shed. Tim, I was able to find it. 
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